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i sell junk · Dec 09, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

ok so ive heard that warriors should all have 4 weapon sets of differently moded weapons. Does anyone know these modsweapon sets? and why should we have them?

Tyla · Dec 09, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Vampiric set. (General set)
Sundering set. (PvP)
Elemental set. (vs. Warriors)
Spear set. (Furious)

moriz · Dec 09, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

sundering/vamp set
spear set
zealous set w/ bison cup
elemental set

and no, don't use the bison cup on your energy set. i use it because i've always be phenomenally terrible with energy management, and at this point in the game, i'm too lazy to try and correct it.

dilan155 · Dec 09, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

unless your heavy reliant on energy you can remove the zelaous/energy gain set, and for PvE you really dont need a elemental set atleast not in NM, spear set is again less useful for PvE, the only thing i would say is most important is a vamp set when fighting and a sundering set when your not fighting. also bring a longbow for pulling if you need to.

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Dec 10, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Vampiric set. (General set)
Sundering set. (PvP)
Elemental set. (vs. Warriors)
Spear set. (Furious)

This is the closest to correct.

You should have your sundering, elemental, vamp and furious spear + shield set, for playing an axe warrior.

You should also have a +5 energy axe, either swapped out for the elemental (in which case the ele axe will be in your inventory) or have the +5 in your inventory, for bull's if you haven't got enough energy and you need it.

The sundering isn't really used a lot actually in game for attacking, only really for the lord and then it's used for running about the place without degening from vamp.

Your vamp is your most used weapon and is just used when your hitting stuff which is like 95% of the time.

Elemental set is for hitting warriors and knights to bypass the +20AL vs physical damage, and if you're running a conjure all your weapons should have the appropriate elemental mod.

If you're playing a hammer warrior you should also have a furious hammer, used if you're linebacking other warriors, since damage isn't your main focus the extra adrenaline for KD'ing is very good.

Also you should have blind and cripple shields in your inventory, if the opponent has a very effective blind bot casuing you to be blind all the time, this will be very useful to have, and the cripple shield is excellent for burning isle and splitting vs a ranger.

That's about all I can think of, of course you should have shields vs all the damage types as well in your inventory but that's like common sense.

Tyla · Dec 10, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Just a few questions based on your post.

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Originally Posted by eddie the reaper

You should also have a +5 energy axe, either swapped out for the elemental (in which case the ele axe will be in your inventory) or have the +5 in your inventory, for bull's if you haven't got enough energy and you need it.

If you feel that you're going to be eventually uneasy on energy, wouldn't it be more efficient to have a zealous weapon handy over a +5E? Or keeping the +5E, wouldn't it be better to use a focus for that time so you don't lose a little of the damage instead?

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The sundering isn't really used a lot actually in game for attacking, only really for the lord and then it's used for running about the place without degening from vamp.

Wouldn't it make sense to swap into it on spikes too?

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Also you should have blind and cripple shields in your inventory, if the opponent has a very effective blind bot casuing you to be blind all the time, this will be very useful to have, and the cripple shield is excellent for burning isle and splitting vs a ranger.

This being true, there is also no reason you shouldn't be utilising the ability to strafe arrows too. In the case of you getting crippled by say a Melandrus' Shot (I find that I fake it out, but still get the cripple at times so I could only assume it's either lag or bad timing on my part), it'd still help considering you'd be able to fake that out. I'm not sure if it's possible to efficiently dodge the other forms of Ranger-based snares, such as Pin Down while actually snared though.

i sell junk · Dec 10, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

whats a spear set and elemental set?

Tyla · Dec 10, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

A spear set allows adrenaline to be filled from range. I rarely see people pull them out when it comes to axes or swords, but you'd see the majority of hammer Warriors use the spear in conjunction with Enraging Charge a lot.

Elemental sets are explained in detail within Eddies' post. Attacking Warriors or in conjunction with a Conjure.

ac1inferno · Dec 10, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Zealous/Vampiric/Elemental
Furious/Zealous Spear
-dmg Shields
+armor Shields
-20% condition Shields

I never really liked Sundering, always prefered Vampiric over it. Zealous on my weapon in case I'm low on energy and on my spear also to be able to build up from range. Elemental for Warriors. Furious on spear for [[Enraging Charge] or to build up [[Rush] from range. -dmg for damage reduction in all situations. +armor for additional armor in all situations. And -20% condition for anticondition in all situations.

-Lotus- · Dec 10, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

vampiric set
zealous set
elemental set (ebon/firey/icy/shocking mod)
sundering set (only for spikes, and only if you are playing PvP)

-optional-
furious spear
high-energy staff (random spells, comes in handy every once-in-awhile)

EDIT:
totally forgot. youshould always have a longbow (or flatbow) for pulling. this doesn't need to actually be assigned to a weapon set, as you will only be switching to it between fights, but keep one in your inventory.

_Nihilist_ · Dec 10, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

@ i sell junk:

When Marty comes in here and once again tells you to check the Sticky, I'm going to ROFL like a maniac. All the information that you have asked for in your last 3 posts have been included, quite well and simply, in the Sticky.

That being said:

1) Vampiric Weapon for Damage
2) Zealous Weapon for Energy Gain
3) Elemental Weapon for Warriors, if you use Conjure (Element), or to swap while not attacking so you don't deal with the drawback of 1) or 2)
4) Spear + Shield for ranged Adrenaline gain (usually a Furious 10% Spear mod)

Your shield(s) should have:

-20% Blind/Cripple duration : pick one, Blind sucks, so does Cripple - the duration is only reduced if the shield is equipped when the condition is inflicted, no swapping to it once the condition has already been applied to you.

+10AL vs. Cold/Earth/Fire/Lightning : you already have 100AL vs all Physical damage types. If you want to bring extra armor, bring it vs. Elemental damage.

(PvE only)

- damage on a condition (in stance, enchanted, hexed) : because even though it reduces physical damage only, monsters in PvE don't swap to Elemental weapons to hit Warriors (Elemental spells still deal Elemental damage, but physical monsters don't weapon-swap like human opponents do in PvP).

Shadowfox1125 · Dec 10, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

In addition to what others are saying, if you're running a Conjure, bring a high energy, +20% enchant duration staff to switch to when casting your conjure.

<3 Spear set while wielding a hammer, switch to set, use Enraging Charge, hit, switch back to hammer.

_Nihilist_ · Dec 11, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Spear sets are just goodness.

[[Enraging [email protected]] --> Spear Attack --> zomg mah Hammer is BASHY makes Warriors happy.

Neez · Dec 14, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Before i get to the subject, i'd like to let you guys know that, although this is my first post here at Guru, i've started reading (learning should be the word) the forums 3 months ago.

So, basically, in 3 months this is the first time that i rly feel the need to clarify some questions/doubts i have.

Well, i got to the stage where i actually can afford the costs of serious weapon/armor sets improvements. Which lead to the question: what's my priorities? So i started my search and indeed i got most of the answers i was looking for. But, like i said above, i still have some points to clarify.

Below, are the Sets i've defined along with the questions i have:

Axe Set: (used for PvP + Specific PvE)

- Vampiric
- Zealous
- Ebon?
- Sundering or Furious?
- ?

(Both adrenaline/energy based builds)

Hammer Set: (used for PvP + Specific PvE)

- Furious
- Vampiric
- ?

(Adrenaline based builds only)

Sword Set: (used for General PvE only)

- Vampiric
- Sundering or Furious?

(Adrenaline based builds only)

Shields Set: (This set has to be versatile, so i can use it for both PvP and PvE)

- Physical -2 while in a Stance
- vs. Fire damage
- vs. Earth damage?
- Blind/Crippled Conditions? (i have the idea that condition shields are useless)
- ?

Spear Set:

- Furious

Current Armor Set:

- 4 Survivors
- 1 Stonefist
- Rune of Minor Axe/Sword/Hammer
- Rune of Minor Str
- Rune of Superior Vigor
- Rune of Vitae
- Rune of Clarity (or Restoration? Or both?)

Although i can use this Armor for both PvP and PvE, i'd like to have a 2nd set more directed to PvE. The problem, is that i can't decide the right setup for it.

So that's it, basically. Feel free to give your opinion, suggestions, etc.

Also, I didn't want to open a new thread, so i've chosen this one since the subject is quite similiar and also recent enough. If for some reason i missed old threads with the answers to my questions above, it wasn't my intention.

Thanks

Luminarus · Dec 14, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neez

Below, are the Sets i've defined along with the questions i have:

Axe Set: (used for PvP + Specific PvE)

- Vampiric
- Zealous
- Ebon?
- Sundering or Furious?
- ?

(Both adrenaline/energy based builds)

Have a sundering and a furious (imo). Sundering can be nice when trying to spike with an axe, whilst I like to use furious whilst blinded on the 1% chance of getting adrenaline (it also has the 10% chance to double any adrenaline I gain from damage I take, even though its basically nill). The ebon axe can really be from any element, and only needs to be specific if using conjure. I have a fiery, icy and shocking (no ebon, because theres no conjure earth and I never use EDA).

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Originally Posted by Neez

Hammer Set: (used for PvP + Specific PvE)

- Furious
- Vampiric
- ?

(Adrenaline based builds only)

I think overall this is fine, although a zealous might be worth grabbing if u get low on energy. I read somewhere that against a warrior, critting with an elemental hammer does the same damage as criting with a vampiric hammer and so isnt worth changing. I have an elemental hammer for the hell of it anyway, but I dont think you need one. So overall, I think ur set for hammers

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Originally Posted by Neez

Sword Set: (used for General PvE only)

- Vampiric
- Sundering or Furious?

(Adrenaline based builds only)

Since adrenaline only, no need for zealous. I wouldnt bother with a sundering sword as the extra damage is negligable. However, I would grab an elemental weapon to swap to against warriors and in certain areas (eg firey sword vs ice golems)

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Originally Posted by Neez

Shields Set: (This set has to be versatile, so i can use it for both PvP and PvE)

- Physical -2 while in a Stance
- vs. Fire damage
- vs. Earth damage?
- Blind/Crippled Conditions? (i have the idea that condition shields are useless)
- ?

I have a -blind 20%, +10vs fire, water and air. Earth damage never seems to be that great in either pve or pvp. Its there but earth is more powerful for its effects. Crippled is fine if you know ur gonna get crippled alot, but I dont find it that prominent.

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Originally Posted by Neez

Spear Set:

- Furious

Thats fine. I would also grab a longbow for pulling, and for gaining adrenaline out of range.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neez

Current Armor Set:

- 4 Survivors
- 1 Stonefist
- Rune of Minor Axe/Sword/Hammer
- Rune of Minor Str
- Rune of Superior Vigor
- Rune of Vitae
- Rune of Clarity (or Restoration? Or both?)

Although i can use this Armor for both PvP and PvE, i'd like to have a 2nd set more directed to PvE. The problem, is that i can't decide the right setup for it.

I run the same runes as you have on urs, and I dont bother with restoration. However, for a second set I would grab radiants because in some builds (shock axe), having extra energy is nice. Also, in pve if you are trying to tank and know you are gonna be taking lots of hits, sentinals can be helpful, as can dreadnaughts.

Samscwamch · Dec 15, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

For swords i have an elemental, sundering, vampiric, furious and for axes i have sundering vampiric and furious, i don't have an elemental axe because i think it would be a waste of a weapon without a conjure, and i rarely have room for a conjure in my axe builds. But for hammers all i have is a furious, i'm and adrenal RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO when it comes to hammers

gasp10 · Dec 15, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

so for hammer is general furious and elemental
for sword a elemental and a vampirc sword, and sundering is useless?
for axe vampiric, zeal and a elemental axe right?

for shield a +30 hp with -5/20 and/or +10vsElements it's ok?

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 15, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by gasp10

so for hammer is general furious and elemental
for sword a elemental and a vampirc sword, and sundering is useless?
for axe vampiric, zeal and a elemental axe right?

for shield a +30 hp with -5/20 and/or +10vsElements it's ok?

Sundering is crap on swords because of the low max damage.
Sundering is good on axes because of the higher max damage.
-5/20% mods are useless.

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 15, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

meh, in pve just bring w/e set that goes well with ur build. if u have a vamp or zealous, bring a swap for running from mob to mob so u can regen better. take a longbow/flatbow to do pulling. (Drago's Flatbow is my baby =D) that's about it. be sure to have sets of weapons in ur storage though if u ever feel like easily swapping between sword/axe/hammer builds. Sword is my personal favorite. (Dragon Slash=Adrenaline engine CRAZY)

_Nihilist_ · Dec 15, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Neez,

The PvP armor setup you have works for PvE as well. Unless you want a specific armor set and want to set it up for a certain farm, you really don't need anything else, tbh.